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john boehner is advocating is making medicare available to fewer americans. as it happens, there is brand-new polling out today on how americans feel about the idea of congress using these deficit negotiations to make cuts to medicare. 79% of americans say they do not want congress to touch medicare in these deficit negotiations. 79%. if you want to get specific about john boehner's proposal, what he wants to do to medicare is to raise the eligibility age from 65 to 67. and as it turns out, there is also recent polling on that specific proposal. and it is also super unpopular. look at this. almost 70% of americans say they oppose raising the eligibility age for medicare. that number is slightly higher among republicans than it is for the general population. more republicans oppose john boehner's plan than the already extremely high margin of the general public that opposes john boehner's plan. now, if you're following the news very closely in this slow-motion, groundhog day-esque political negotiation, maybe you already knew that john boehner wants to raise the medicare el
billion out of medicare and now they want to make cuts to medicare and other entitlements part of the equation to get anything agreed to. we need to reform our social insurance system, particularly in medicare. we did that in the affordable care act and people forget the significant changes of medicare in that law and we ought to be content to let some of those actually play themselves out before we start messing around with something that's so important to 50 million americans. >> i believe you've pointed out in the past the cuts that were made with medicare are the same cuts that the president was attacked for during the election. >> exactly. these are savings, about a third of which were reducing the subsidy for insurance companies providing medicare advantage programs and the rest of them pretty much cut to providers and we didn't reduce services. we expanded some while leaving money over the long term and the cbo said the affordable care act will save $1.2 trillion. again, we need to be careful what we do with the medicare portion of the social safety net because we've act
security, medicare entry age raised with sizable entitlement benefits. that's literary where they are. can they get something big or go off the cliff? which a lot of democrats think now is not the worst thing in the world. gambling with the financial markets but hurting the gop and don't have to deal with what democrat told me is this constant utter nonsense that happens every time we have a budget negotiation. >> luke keeps referencing the polling, a "washington post"/pew poll that says 53% of the country will blame congressional republicans if be go over the cliff, 27% blaming the president. he is comfortable with those numbers which is why the swagger is the only word for it today at the business roundtable. >> absolutely. remember this is the second or third poll we've seen, so the republicans have had time to make their case and the public is not buying it. if you're the president, your hand is strengthened. there are polls that show there's a national journal poll people want this balanced approach. you hear the president talk about the balanced approach. yes, it's a great thing they
and those who vitally depend on things like social security and medicare and medicaid. they should consider who won and who needs to be considered here. why? because the nobodies is the big shots like they call them also have a stake in how this deal gets cut. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >>> change, chris, and a thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, holiday spirit gop style. later tonight, gop leaders are expected at the white house for a christmas party. it should be a festive event. maybe they will share some egg nog with the president. maybe sing some christmas carols. maybe some good cheer will be in the air, or maybe not. it might be a bit tough after the republican's new debt offer. for weeks they have called the white house plan a nonstarter. the gop republican in the senate reportedly laughed out loud, the leader of the gop and the senate laughed out loud when he heard about the president's plan and today speaker boehner said the white house plan was a, quote, a la-la land offer. well, earlier to
a plan for medicare. medicare advantage. that is exactly the same as obama care is for people under the age of 65. and so i'm waiting for paul ryan to tell me the difference between his medicare advantage plan and the obama health care exchanges. >> i think we can settle this 2016 thing right now. >> what are you, kidding? >> i stopped making predictions like six seconds ago. we're great when we talk about things that happened in the past or things happening now. we're really stupid. >> joe klein gets the last very cautious word. thank you very much for joining me. from washington, d.c. tonight, breaking news from the nation's capital. house democrats are turning the screws on house speaker bain. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal is still out of balance. >> the president responds to john boehner, but democratic leader nancy pelosi has a plan to get around the speaker. tonight, leader pelosi joins me for an exclusive interview. >>> senator john kerry like you have never seen him before. the statesman from massachusetts scolds the radic
for medicare, for example. i'm not sure that that's a trade that they are eager to make immediately. >> let me show you the side by side comparison. the president wants $1.6 trillion in revenue and republicans want to cap the same deductions for the rich but republicans want to change the age to 67 and change the way they calculate social security payments. i wonder, though, when we look at these numbers, are we that far apart in. >> i think they are definitely rather far aare part at this moment in time. yeah, absolutely. >> so there are so many ways that any of this could affect the average tack payer, obviously if taxes go up. but what about funding to states and localities. i know that one of the things that they are concerned about is that when you make cuts, that essentially those cuts are going to come on their budgets. what could happen in a meeting like this between bipartisan governors and the president? >> obviously they will talk about more costs moved to the state. costs are being moved to the states and state budgets and most are not in a position to absorb additional cuts. >> it
out for the interests of the middle-class and the protection of social security, medicare, and medicaid for the people who are in such desperate need of those great programs that are the hal. this is not a democrat or republican issue, the republicans need a map -- issue. compromise can be made to make sure we are putting people back to work, that chris christy and barack obama can get together on that. i know this is known firsthand of what is transpired and how the impact of our infrastructure has taken place on the eastern seaboard, it is something we ought to be able to rally around immediately. everyone deserves a $250,000 tax break. we all agree on that. why not just simply adopt it. then come back and we will have time to address the issues as they relate to bending on health care. and focusing on the vast inefficiencies, the fraud, abuse. $750 billion annually. the chairman, from my district, said, it would be a way for us both to bring down the deficit, but also make health care affordable, a sensible, and functional for the american people. something i believe we
, you get mishmash from them. you get $100 billion in medicare savings by increasing the retirement age from 65 to 67. you get some unspecified savings from reducing social security. the only specifics if you add them up are about $300 billion or $400 billion in specific cuts, the rest are inspecific. this is the party whose fundamental premise is to cut government spending. you ask them to identify how they want to do it, and they start speaking in gibberish. it shows you this is a phony, phony movement on the part of conservatives to cut government spending. >> absolutely. ari, the president took a question on twitter this afternoon. quote, what is your opposition to taking away deductions for the 2% rather than upping the rate? seems like a reasonable compromise. his answer, not enough revenue unless you end charitable deductions. he's right, isn't he? the math doesn't add up. it didn't add up with mitt romney. it doesn't add up today. >> it doesn't add up, and those targeted revenue measures serve certain goals that we actually care about more than helping billionaires. those goals
fiscal cliff developments and the democratic line on medicare. tom perriello from the center of american progress action fund on how democrats can deal with republicans who can't deal with reality. rubio and ryan reload with a new message for the middle class. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. >> but there is no escaping their own policies. >> we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz responds tonight. plus, senator barbara boxer on her new plan for national polling place standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and worse. "the new york times" is the latest outlet to report on
and medicare and medicaid. we have to do something for medicare . get americans back to work . continuing to extend the pay roll tax cut which is a defending of social security . every since we started that bad policy. we have seen them run the deficit . medicare. when you see the american people paying on average. 115 million a year and getting something 300 mill or 300,000, benefits in their life. we have to do something about the fee for service program and get it a defined benefit and we have to reform and preserve mandatory spending programs. >> one of the things you are best at as a communicator of the republican party. what do you tell people who are worried about republicans or democrats might do in congress that would put their security in jeopardy? >> first and foremost, we are not talking about making change for current seniors or those 10 years from going in. but we have to do something for someone like myself who is 51 or those programs will not be there. we are talking 10-12 years of solvencey between social security and medicare. we have to be adults and leaders and say we
, they are unable to identify any changes in medicare or entitlement spending which shows the tea party at its core was a phoney, phoney movement. >> joy, it's interesting to hear ron referring to august 2011 because a number of refers appear to have forgotten something happened in november 2012 called a presidential election. >> right. it was an election in which president obama, unprecedented for a democrat, actually ran on a platform of raising taxes. he said, i'm going to raise taxes on the top 2% and he was re-elected resoundingly with it. to what ron said, if it's only $14 trillion, what's the big deal, go ahead and let the rich pay it? that's number one. number two, the other thing that's been exposed and what's true, what's always been true about conservativism is that the core principle is the rich don't pay too much, they pay too little. when they say things like broaden the tax base, they think it's a moral hazard to have a progressive tax code. you want a flatter tax code for those with less money pay more into the system. republicans have tried to talk around that because that's anç
like social security and medicare and medicaid. they should consider who won and who needs to be considered here. why? because the nobodies is the big shots like they call them also have a stake in how this deal gets cut. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. the republican plan to solve the fiscal cliff is the same one america rejected on november 6th. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> flabbergasted. i said he can't be serious. >> john boehner finally puts a plan on the table. >>> and breaking news the middle class gets the shaft. richard wolffe and molly ball on the republican political theater and the white house response. >>> bob costas issues a common sense relief for gun control in the wake of the kansas city chief murder suicide story. and the right wing just explodes. >> bob costas based on the standards of our society today deserves to be fired for these remarks. bill roden and dan gross respond. >>> corporate profits break records aga
. they are in favor of tax cuts for the rich. they want to cut tax care programs and medicare and make seniors pay and threaten the economy of the united states of america by defaulting on payments or at least to threaten that. this is not a very popular position among the public. in fact, they will be -- i think it's a suicide mission that they are on, that the american people will make them pay the price. i really don't understand their strategy. >> margie, if you look at the fact that in the 2011 debt ceiling battle senator mitch mcconnell had this to say. he said, i think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage. you might take a chance at shooting. most of us didn't think that. what we did learn is this. it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. and it focuses theç congress o something that must be done. now, if this was their thought and attitude in 2011, do you think that's what we're dealing with, that kind of feeling, attitude of holding the hostage for ransom now? >> i hope not. it's bad for -- it's certainly bad for the economy and it's also been bad for the e
now. $400 billion in unspecified medicare cuts. over the next ten years. and then, permanent authority to increase the debt limit the president wants that authority. they look at that 1.6 trillion in revenue and say it's twice as much you get from raising taxes on the wealthy and much more than democrats would ever accept in the senate. that's why they say this is not serious. >> but let me start with what you said, we're making the threat of default. we propose to take an idea that senator mcconnell proposed in the summer of 2011 and extend that. what that does, it lifts the cloud of default over the economy. the president has increased the debt limit. congress has a chance to express approval of that. it's a very smart way by the senator with impeccable credentials to lift this threat. >> you said that he never intended it to be permanent? >> but, again, it was a good idea then, it's a good idea going forward. it came from him. it wasn't our idea. that makes a lot of sense. what you said that wasn't quite right, what we laid out for them was, a detailed set of reforms in health progr
. >> if you isolate the medicare piece of it, they don't want to do anything on the individual medicare rips. maybe we could do something on -- i think the progressive wish list would be to do something on negotiating drug prices, bringing that back from the old fight, the affordable care act. so i think there is wiggle room. i think democrats are dug in on not touching social security and i would be shocked if that even entered the conversation. >> the cpi change, something the president has offered and he's ready to do that. >> i think people want to protect medicaid, obviously, and would like to protect social security. i think medicare is the rule. >> thatour gaggle will stick ar. we'll hear from the white house officially when they can first talk about the jobs report. they can't do it until after 8:30. this sunday's "meet the press" a debate between capitol hill leaders republican congressman and the vote counter for house republicans, kevin mccarthy and the democratic senate whip dick durbin. first, the white house soup of the day, it's friday, spicy and of course it's always fish. ca
close or which medicare savings they would achieve. hold it right there, folks. loopholes, aren't we tired of hearing about loopholes? timothy geithner made appearances on all the sunday talk shows to hammer home the specifics of the white house plan. republicans tried to counter his presence using their favorite media source. >> timothy geithner scheduled a round of interviews, but friday afternoon speaker boehner's office said he wanted to come on fox news to tell his side of the story. >> gosh, i wish i could get those calls. fox news gave john boehner the floor but he showed up with nothing. >> we have laid it out for him. a dozen different ways to raise the revenue from the richest americans as the president would describe them. >> what's the biggest proposal you put on the table since the election in terms of raising revenue from closing loopholes and deductions? >> there's a lot of ways to get there, but you could cap deductions at a percent of income. that would be one way to get there. you could eliminate deductions for the wealthiest. >> let me ask you a couple specifics. w
when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. let's see if we can get the same item at walmart for less? okay. fijit friends. fifteen bucks on rollback. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourself if you
social security and medicare for generations to come, it's going to be very difficult for me to oppose higher rates for the rich. what about that? >> and to mr. rooney's point, if in fact there were fundamental, significant reform of medicare, medicaid and social security so that we in fact save and strengthen and secure those programs, just like we did in our budget,those were included in the president's proposal, then that's something that we would talk about and very seriously consider because there's where we got to get. we got to get real solutions. the problem with the president's proposal is it's not a real solution, it's all politics. >> congressman tom price, thank you for coming on the program. >> we've been talking about the president's advantage right now. so, karl rove was not about to sit on the sidelines. his crossroads gps is running a spot today criticizing the president over his handling of the fiscal cliff. let me take a look at that. >> no real reform. instead spending taxes. we neat bipartisan ideas we can all support. >> dana, is any of that going to make a differ
and in the president's budget to over a trillion dollars in savings to medicare without doing any harm to beneficiaries and extended the life of medicare. what is lacking are the revenues. you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. what does reduce the deficit are jobs, job creation. have the spending cuts, we have the medicare savings, what we need are the revenues. and that is what you have to ask the question, why are we not here to pass the middle income tax cut which unleashes the high end -- increases the high end contribution to the budget talks. why are we not here to pass the middle income tax cut? why are we not here to even debate the middle income tax cut? could it be because the republicans are holding the middle income tax cuts as they have all along hostage to tax cuts for the wealthy? as long as they will not touch one hair on the red or get one red scent from the high end we will never have the revenue with the save togs reduce the deficit, to create jobs and grow the economy and improve the lives of the american people. [inaudible] >> [inaudible] as i've cede before than subject, w
would come from other programs including medicare and medicaid as well as discretionary spending. that's appropriations. republicans would also make changes to the consumer price index. now, they're monkeying with that cpi this time. they had reduced medicare and social security benefits which they say would save another $200 billion. that will be interesting to fiddle with that one. later this afternoon the white house rejected the boehner offer saying in part, quote, the republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. in fact, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill. their plan includes nothing new and provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they would close, or which medicare savings they would achieve. you know this stuff so well. do they seriously propose at this point in our political history after this resounding election, a clear election with a result and a winner and a loser, romney is off in del hoya somewhere riding roller costers, that they would come out and say
together has never worked so well. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. >>> as promised, we wanted to get you back to egypt. we have been reporting on the deadly clashes in cairo. thousands of supporters are pushing these an
-- >> stephanie: these two guys, whatever their names are they said despite sweeping changes to medicare and medicaid, paul ryan's budget didn't make deep enough cuts to entitlement. those guys. yeah, that wasn't quite mean enough. [ applause ] >> i would be surprised if boehner kept his leadership position in the next congress. >> stephanie: really? >> yeah. because he's not -- >> stephanie: i picture eric cantor rubbing his hands together like snidely whiplash. >> he can't keep the caucus together. the republicans are famous for staying together. he can't keep them together. >> flabbergasted! >> that's doing a bad job. >> stephanie: he's flabbergasted at his own caucus. [mumbling] >> stephanie: by the way doesn't he get drunker every day? hey, john in new jersey, go ahead. >> caller: i'm john weston and i'm dyslexic. i thought what they did in congress was a national tragedy. i did -- the thing i'm saying is these republicans really look like they're totally nuts. and one thing i will tell you is i'm still dealin
to raise the age of medicare or something like that. eligibility for medicare. that is a no-go zone for any reasonable, respectable democrat. this is not even. even if boehner caves, he can't bring his caucus with him. he has to deal with nancy pelosi one way or another. >> howard dean and krystal ball, thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up, there is a sleeping giant in the tax policy issues facing the president and congress, and no one is talking about it yet. another republican is takingç shots at mitt romney, and this time of all people it's paul ryan. and also coming up, marijuana, marriage, hillary clinton, seceding from the union and gangham style are all in the rewrite. ♪ well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for
on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. >> cenk: we've the latest in the grand bargain negotiations. democrats gave they are first offer, republicans theirs. their both largely nonsense. we know they're going to meet somewhere in the middle but it has to play out. we're told nbc is a liberal network. interesting. andrea mitchell asked questions that are completely loaded in favor of cutting social security and medicare, which is not remotely liberal. she almost tries to browbeat. watch. >> are you willing to work with the president to go against aarp to bring house departments along for cuts with the most popular programs? >> the savings that we know we can continue to add on that we achieved in the affordable care act
. they would cut medicare. they would cut $600 -- medicare meaning they would raise the age eligibility from 65 to 67. they would cut $600 billion in unspecified cuts. they'll cut spending. they don't tell us where. but it's not defense spending. those are social programs. they would cut another $800 billion or raise $800 billion in revenues they say by closing loopholes and getting rid of deductions. but again they don't tell where. what loopholes they would close. is it the mortgage interest deduction? we don't know. they do not specify. so again it is a lot -- it is filled with vague promises but here's the big difference. notice what is not included and what they say they will not do. they will not raise tax rates. they will not raise taxes on the top wealthiest 2% of americans. they say no way. no how will that be included. they're dead wrong. they're wasting time. when i saw that proposal yesterday, to coin a word, you know what my reaction was? i was flabbergasted! oh, my god. i was flabbergasted. >> thank you
-priced medicare prescription drug plan. with a low $18.50 monthly plan premium, select generic hypertension drugs for only a penny and in-store copays as low as one dollar on other generic drugs after deductible, saving on your medicare prescriptions is easy. so you're free to focus on the things that really matter. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. or go to walmart.com for details. >>> welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." at the half hour now, much of northern california is taking cover from a storm that's dropping intense rain, flooding, mud slides all a concern across the golden state. but on the east coast, eerie fog greeted them. this is the view from times square. dylan dreyer is here with more details. >> we were talking about record-breaking high temperatures in the middle. so things are all over the place. and the main focus is what is going on across northern california. the good news is the heaviest of the rain that we saw is starting to push east. even tomorrow in san francisco, we'll see some sunshine before another round of heavy rain moves in tuesday night into wednesday morning
medicare. he believes they must be run more efficiently. >> last year the office of budget management says $115 billion was misspent. that's a tremendous savings right there. they are both much lower than everyone says we need. all economists say we need a minimum of $4 trillion or greater swing. that means a combining of many things. i think both of them are in the two or not much more than two or lower than two. that only goats you halfway there. i don't know how we got off track of what we really need to fix this. martha: he argues the economy is ready to take off if people would just stop playing the blame game. bill: one of the changes that may be coming is the reduction in the mortgage interest rate duck you can claim. but according to the i.r.s. only a small percentage of americans claim it after all. all. 37% in maryland and 15% in north dakota. 73 per of americans are opposed to changing that. martha: the owner of popular restaurant chains claims complaints about obama-care have been hurting the company's bottom line. the head of darden says part of the blame is the negative cover
biggest drivers are medicare, medicaid and social security of our debt. [ buzzer ] >> computer says no. >> stephanie: does david gregory correct the statement or challenge credibility? no! once more, this ridiculous fib goes unchallenged. the truth is our national debt began to skyrocket under george bush with medicare part d fiasco. year under year under george w. bush, deficit came in at $500 billion. it is finally year of 2007-2008 president obama inherited the mess of trillion dollar annual deficits but none of this has been caused by medicare or medicaid. >> obviously entitlements. those lazy 47 percenters. >> stephanie: maria and david gregory should know better. >> yeah, they do. they're both major news anchors of major news networks. >> they're paying them lots of money to say lies. >> stephanie: the real culprits are the lack of revenue caused by the tax cuts. oh, he sent a helpful pie chart as well. >> we love pie charts. >> we love pie. >> stephanie: i love pie charts and graphs. the military s
and medicare specifically and there was talk about that and we need new revenue. we spent the last year trying to get through to new revenue and borrowed ideas from both sides but we put together a group of people who are quite experienced, bill, larry, les and tony and we really tried to work through how would you raise enough revenue to hit the simpson-boles target. that is $1.8 trillion dollars that is higher than the president and the republican offer. we did that by removing the alternative minimum tax, repealing other provisions that add complexity and eliminating unjustified tax loopholes but we did it by converting the current system of deductions, which favor high income taxpayers through a system of tax credits which equalizes the benefit that middle income as well as high income taxpayers get. we restore the top rate of 39.6%. there is a lot of debate of whether you can lower the rate. our judgment was you needed that rate in order to have a progression of income and it is incumbent on other people to come forward to show how to get the income necessary to deal with our fiscal probl
of the united states. erskine bowles' proposal included a $600 billion cut in medicare spending which he achieved by raising the medicare eligibility age. so republicans just proposed raising the eligibility age for medicare, a proposal that polls show is supported by a full 30% of the american people and rejected by only 67% of them. white house communications director dan fi officer rejected the offer and repeated that any agreement must include some higher income tax rates on top earners. the republican plan would raise tax revenue by not extending the current obama cut in payroll taxes. but the republican plan still refuses to raise the top income tax rates. yesterday, treasury secretary tim geithner made it clear that there can be no deal without higher top tax rates. >> last question, can you promise that we will not go over the cliff? >> no, i can't promise that. that's a decision that lies in the hands of the republicans that are now opposing increases in tax rates. if they recognize the reality that we can't afford to extend those tax rates, then we have a basis for the agreemen
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